#29: Matt Stone – Diet Psychology & Why Diets Become Religion

Matt Stone of 180 Degree Health

This is episode 29 of Evil Sugar Radio. In this episode, we’re going to interview Matt Stone of 180 Degree Health. Matt is well-known in the diet world for his contrarian views and his focus on metabolic markers of health. Matt recently co-authored the book Solving The Paleo Equation with Dr. Garrett Smith.

Matt has a 30-day course available for free at 180DegreeHealth.com. He also has numerous excellent books available through Amazon.com (http://amzn.to/1eovbgg).

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Episode 29 Overview

Here’s an overview of what we’ll be talking about in this episode:

  • What are you up to these days?
  • Are you getting used to the backlash your writing receives?
  • What’s up with the psychology of people seeking diets?
  • Why do you think people freak out so much about what you write?
  • So would you warn people about being confident and certain?
  • What do you think is a safe thing for people to be confident about?
  • How do you know if you’re functioning normally?
  • What do you think about hypochondriacs?
  • What are some of the big misconceptions about your work?
  • What’s the deal with sugar?
  • What are some misconceptions about hypoglycemia?
  • Thoughts on healthcare
  • What else do you have going on?
  • Where does somebody start with your work?
  • Is sugar evil?
  • If you could suggest positive advice to the fitness industry, how can the industry do better?

Show Notes


Matt’s books on Amazon.com (http://amzn.to/1eovbgg)

Intro music from Baba Brinkman’s Revenge of the Somatic. Purchase any of Baba’s music at http://bababrinkman.bandcamp.com/

Let us know what you think in the comments


  1. praxeologue says:

    There is a section of your listener base that finds it quite easy to stick to a mostly Paleo diet and is not obsessing over it. I live in Ireland where luckily most meat is grass fed anyway, and making meals sticking to meat,fish, fruit, vegetables, nuts and seeds, dairy etc is pretty easy.

    Criticisms of the Paleo diet don’t seem to claim it is nutritionally suspect, more that its benefits are bogus/overstated. So, if one can live on a Paleo diet without being antisocial, what’s the problem?

    • The main criticisms of the Paleo diet do come back to several things:
      – The science underscoring the claims is suspect.
      – The broad claims made by gurus and adherents that Paleo is THE best way for everyone everywhere to eat.
      – The unfortunate fear of carbs and sugar is scientifically unfounded and makes getting sufficient calories difficult.

      It’s obviously better than what many people are eating, but when it’s portrayed as the only option other than eating the standard American diet, it’s faulty logic. I’m sure you wouldn’t argue that there are lots of healthy people that don’t eat Paleo. So if you avoid those issues, then sure, Paleo is fine. I don’t think any of us have claimed otherwise…Paleo is fine, so long as it’s approached as “This is what works best for me” and not “This is what would work best for everyone.”

      Paleo makes controlling calories rather easy, so weight falls off quickly, but can get into an issue of not getting enough calories. Basically, if you can avoid the dogma and just use it as a way to eat good food, then go for it.

      I speak only for me, though. Antonio and Matt may have a different opinion.


      • Praxeologue says:

        Thanks for replying Scott. I agree with all the above except I have seen little science that actually refutes the paleo concerns about inflammatory contents of grains and legumes. The things I have seen against paleo more point to long lived people having a decidedly non paleo diet… Eg… If grains and legumes are bad for you, why do all the longest lived peoples have them as core part of their diet.Good point but it is a top down reaponse, it doesnt answer the bottom up concerns of Paleo guys …lectins, insulin sensitivity etcetc…